Monday, January 21, 2013

Voting for Ah Lian or How Lian?

Just in case for the uninitiated,
Ah Lian = Lee Li Lian
How Lian = arrogant, show-off, conceited

I can still recall Michael Palmer saying that he did not know that there are poor people in Singapore until he joined politics. Maybe he also did not know that there are one-woman men in Singapore!

Now we have another guy from PAP saying, "Well, everybody has a car." This same guy wishes to take over the job that Michael Palmer lost due to his "Tell Laura I Love Her".

EVERYBODY HAS A CAR?  In Singapore? With the current cheapest COE at $92,100?

Geez, where did this guy come from?

If PAP has to scrape the bottom of the barrel to come up with a candidate like this to represent the constituents of Punggol East, I think they have big problems. Very big!


And I'll leave my readers to describe the face . . .
and hopefully pass the video to all in Punggol East to know the smirk [Link]

feedmetothefish

59 Comments:

At January 21, 2013 at 2:33 PM , Blogger patriot said...

On top of the videos at thos thread, the other occasion that the Arse Doctor radiated his conceit was he iterated he was me and me was Doctor Arse.
At his Rally, his finger was pointedly and sharply raised high above his head numerous times as if to show how capable he must be.

It is definitely fine,even desirable to be firm, stern, serious and sincere. There is no need to ACT humble and insignificant which at times seemed to be an inherent nature of the Same Doctor. Maybe many do have many different faces to suit the situation and occasion. Cant say much of such common human nature, however, sincerity seemed compromised when one acts to entertain. Rather a spontaneous demeanour from the heart
than an action made to appear nice and cordial.

Me maybe guilty of reading too much.

patriot

 
At January 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM , Blogger The said...

/// Now we have another guy from PAP saying, "Well, everybody has a car." ///

Let me paraphrase Jean-Jacques Rousseau's Confessions: Let them eat cake.

No car? -- the hoi polloi can always use their private jet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake

 
At January 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM , Blogger The said...

Zhu Muzhi, president of the China Society for Human Rights Studies, asserts that Rousseau's version is an alteration of a much older anecdote: "An ancient Chinese emperor who, being told that his subjects didn't have enough rice to eat, replied, 'Why don't they eat meat?'"[4] That emperor was recorded by historians as Emperor Hui of Jin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake

 
At January 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah everybody has a car-chg. But he is are seeing rich car- chg.look at the way he talk typical yaya papaya arrogant.

 
At January 21, 2013 at 3:01 PM , Anonymous theonion said...

Dato

Guess you are just as good as the MSM, the question was on his family transport.

It was not on the rest of Singapore, not accurate to say the least on your article.

You may claim conceit.

But if a person who thru dint of hard work and intellegience and stil wants to hava family life, yet you can claim all your articles on conceit and pride.

Considering that he is basically arguing in terms of issues and being gentlemanly and likewise all the rest, can we stop such personal slander as it does no side of the political divide, well.









 
At January 21, 2013 at 3:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give the man a break lah. In his social circle, EVERYBODY has a car - a BIG car. He has only a small car. I have two car, and car-ceng also.

 
At January 21, 2013 at 4:40 PM , Blogger oldhorse42 said...

Well he has a car. His wife also has a car. So every body has a car ! QED
Now how to get 2 season parking tickets for two cars in HDB estates where a family is allowed 1 car only?

 
At January 21, 2013 at 4:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

He looks, acts and speaks like a SAF Co of a Battalion.

 
At January 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM , Blogger FeedMeToTheFish said...

Dear Onion of January 21, 2013 at 3:01 PM,

Thank you but I'm not as good as msm. The question on family transport came later.

Check this out:
The reporter asked:"The citizens on line are also asking, you know, you say you live a 5-room HDB flat and things like that but do you own other assets?"

Answer: "I don't own any private property."

Question: "And I mean the car you drive and stuff, you know?"

Answer:"We'll, everybody has a car."

Another reporter asked, "How many cars you have in your family"

He replied, " I have two. My wife drives one . I drive one"

 
At January 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

He meant to say that every body has transport ie Bus, MRT or Wheelchair.
Cars are only for the ELITES due to COE and ERP.

 
At January 21, 2013 at 5:20 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Without the alternative parties, would he uttered "I'm sorry' in the last GE? Without the alternative parties, would he announce more flats, more mrt lines, better baby bonus? He would just take us for granted, make us serfs, squeeze us dry. Vote WP.

 
At January 21, 2013 at 5:26 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is a joker. Everyone needs to travel how come not everyone has a car? I guess he knows he will lose.

 
At January 21, 2013 at 5:49 PM , Blogger patriot said...

He also iterated that his wife and himself are both professionals.
It is as if all professionals by definition must each owns a car, lol.

I will say that if husband and wife are professionals, they should not be living in SUBSIDIZED PUBLIC HOUSING, if me goes by his logic. BUT, i will give much respect to successful people who are humble and frugal.

patriot

 
At January 21, 2013 at 6:45 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe he meant everybody has kars (legs) ! But I and my wife being both high class professional, so we deserve 2 real cars.

 
At January 21, 2013 at 7:04 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope the PAP are grateful that there are people like theonion who stand up for them, when party members face a little gentle sniping or have the absurdities of what they say pointed out.

So many of us find it so hard because we so dislike people who run others down viciously, and often for the flimsiest of reasons. People who keep on hounding citizens, out of a job and out of the country. theonion may want to bear in mind that non PAP lovers do not do this.

Do note tho that theonion grossly exaggerates in his defence, rather like the people he defends. He uses words like ''slander'', when people question if every professional today indeed owns a car as claimed, and whether Everybody Does own a car, as is also claimed. If Everybody does own a car, how did the trains and buses get so packed, even on public holidays, even at off-peak hours.

Perhaps theonion needs to peel away the many layers that protect onions and get to the real hearts and truths of things? By and large, people do not expect Everyone to agree with their views, but to argue on fact. And let's face it, not Everyone owns a car, and certainly not Every professional does.

Let's hope, if Koh is voted in, he too has an epiphany like Palmer, tho many in Singapore believe one cant learn anything after 40. And, unlike Palmer, Koh does something about what he learns.


 
At January 21, 2013 at 7:14 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow lau...only professionals need to travel..sigh

 
At January 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lol...this "poor" doctor's comment has been taken out of context, and it will stick with him.

 
At January 21, 2013 at 8:47 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Considering that he is basically arguing in terms of issues and being gentlemanly and likewise all the rest, can we stop such personal slander as it does no side of the political divide"

How come when the conversation turns uncomfortable, "theonion" (stomping feet like Tin Pei Ling) like to just wave their hands and ask that we "stop such personal slander".

But how come when James Gomez said something out of context, the MSM, and every Minister from top down, can go after him, and WP, like a hungry pack of dogs? How come its all right then for PAP to say this is not just a stray remark issue, IT IS A (thumping fist in righteousness) CHARACTER ISSUE!!! Its about the kind of people you want to send to Parliament!!

Look - the tone of today's political "debate" has been set by the PAP. When Saw had an affair, look at the kind of comments Ministers including KBW made. The WP has let the people down, sold you a bad fruit, etc etc.

I guess its not very pleasant taking it on the receiving end, isn't it? That's why there's such a thing as "lead by example" - if PAP sets an (ahemmmm) gracious tone from the start, the people will take the cue and follow.

And oh, there's another saying too : If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

 
At January 21, 2013 at 9:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"theonion" should call himself "thearsehole" after the arsehole doctor.

 
At January 21, 2013 at 9:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr Koh is made of Ministerial material.
Will he be made Minister in the Prime Minister's Orifice?

No, there is no spelling mistake in office or anal orifice for that matter.

 
At January 21, 2013 at 10:24 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read this insider's take (Scroobal) of the situation. Apparently, PAP is starting to sweat ...

Re: Punggol BE Pundits stumped, PAP launches rescue boat
This is what pundits made up of policy wonks, academics, roundtable and political wannabees and bullshitters came out with yesterday. Punggol East is marginal to WP while Joo Chiat and East Coast is core. That was the starting position by all without exception when election was called when the discussions began. The focus thereafter everyone agreed was on SDP rather than WP. Dr Koh's poverty campaign threw everyone off. The question to ask is why was this man doing something unusual.

Then the little sitreps starting flowing in from those who are connected - PAP unsure, Palmer in 2011 underperformed and reduced the precint's margin while under a GRC in 2006 of over 30% to just 13.5% after it was carefully selected and carved out. Also told that Palmer got PA's A team of GRC organisers to work with him, that party water wands were also lost etc etc.

Some things considered trivia also started to loom quite large. Its common knowledge that PAP talks to the captive press reporters to gauge ground readings. What they got was quite interesting. Same reporters who covered both PAP and WP door to door as well as walk-outs saw distinctly different receptions. Residents were forthcoming, talkative, and even offered drinks and snacks to the Lilian and her crew but not for the son of Punggol though they remained cordial. Png was considered the new Auntie Killer while LTK and SL are considered as legends.

Faisal also came across very well and was well received with his family in tow. Apparently he has got a killer smile. WP was also using all their MPs - Pritam, Yee, G and Chen to good effect. The notion that they are perceived as being with the people is a big factor and might have changed PAP's mind of bringing in the rest of their big wigs..

Most importantly WP volunteers was a composite of society - young, old, fat, thin and looked sincere.

Source :
http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?141154-Punggol-BE-Pundits-stumped-PAP-launches-rescue-boat/page3

And when you see the photos of the people with WP, you can see the warmth there too. I myself am surprised by the warm reception :
http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?140726-Punggol-East-By-Election-Later-News-Update/page12

 
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(Pastors' comments spark fresh debate over Section 377A - Yahoo! News Singapore)
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(Diary of A Singaporean Mind Opposition politics gets messy in Punggol East By-Election__)
http://singaporemind.blogspot.sg/2013/01/opposition-politics-gets-messy-in.html

PS, sorry, Yahoo refused to let me post this, PAP is also big a fan of the LGBT community.

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At January 21, 2013 at 11:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

These elites somehow have standard answers like a 10year series

Perhaps talent-scouting should not be exam-based.

 
At January 22, 2013 at 1:42 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps those people who wreck chaos all over the world are part of LGBT community. They controlled the Fed res, US and UK banking system. Their aim is to detroy the world cos they are screwed inside out. The elites are big fan of them cos they are powerful.

 
At January 22, 2013 at 1:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope the LGBT community can understand that there are many living things with no equal rights. I saw innocent indonesia women with a few singaporeans kids being treated as crimials and deported cos they do not have the right papers. Do not pursue equal rights cos it only makes this world more unequal.

 
At January 22, 2013 at 8:00 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

HOW MUCH TIME DOES THE GOOD DOC INTENDS TO SPEND ON HIS MP ROLE IF HE WINS?

 
At January 22, 2013 at 10:11 AM , Blogger carr said...

sibei fake!

 
At January 22, 2013 at 11:59 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

/// HOW MUCH TIME DOES THE GOOD DOC INTENDS TO SPEND ON HIS MP ROLE IF HE WINS? ///

If you cannot get an appointment to see him for free during Meet-the-people-session;
Maybe you can see him at his Mount Elizabeth Clinic.
But you have to pay for a Consultation hor.

 
At January 22, 2013 at 12:14 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a saying in French "Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose"...

If I may quote from a wise old man"...in this country don’t gamble on the unknown and untried. Elections are meant for the people to choose the party which will govern the country. The assumption is that the people know what is good for them. But in reality the majority of the people do not know. They vote either for their race, or party because of the propaganda they are exposed to. Only a small minority understand the issues and the quality of the parties contesting.

The idea that change must always be for the better is not always true. Milton Obote was said to be a bad President of Uganda. So Idi Amin seized power. He was worse and had to be forcibly removed by a rebel army.

Iraq was ruled by Saddam Hussain as a dictatorship. He was said to be very cruel. The United States decided there should be a regime change. This involved killing 200,000 innocent Iraqis and destroying their country.

There is a new Government now but it is doubtful that it is any better than that of Saddam. Where there was no confrontation between Sunnis and Shia under Saddam, there is now violent confrontation between the two, each bombing and killing the other..."

 
At January 22, 2013 at 12:45 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

@theonion January 21, 2013 at 3:01 PM

I suggest you refrain from getting down on your knees and start kissing anything that remotely ressembles an ass.

For your information, in case you are not aware, you are not the first and neither would you be the last.

fish 'n' chips

 
At January 22, 2013 at 12:50 PM , Anonymous theonion said...

Dato Fish

I lisrened to the youtube which you posted from the start.
Well, to each his own according to your definte perception.
As a swing voter, would definitely want more courteous behaviour, uncouth pronouncements as such do not well

Regards

 
At January 22, 2013 at 1:13 PM , Anonymous ape@kinjioleaf said...

For a man with his credentials, he's a RC Executive Member since 2002?!?! He should at least be RC Chairman, if not in the Citizens Consultative Committee.

I'm wondering how much passion is there for him to serve the community.

 
At January 22, 2013 at 2:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

On AIMgate, here is what happened in Spain from a Financial Times report:

"Mariano Rajoy, Spain’s prime minister, has ordered an investigation into his own party’s accounts as he scrambles to distance himself from allegations that its former treasurer presided over a system of paying cash kickbacks to top officials."

PAP is not at that level yet but LHL is refusing to commission a third party / independent investigation.

 
At January 22, 2013 at 5:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

People should vote for Ah Lian. She is much better than that TPL who only won cos of connections. Ah Lian deserves to be a MP.

 
At January 22, 2013 at 6:49 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

DPM Teo: "The plan is a fairly comprehensive one, addressing the needs of different groups of demographics, from the elderly to the working adults with young children, to childcare issues as well as the youths, and even infrastructure issues."

Why didn't Michael Palmer do these when he was the MP in Punggol East for one and a half years? Or were they promises made in GE2011 which were forgotten when the PAP won. And now with this by-election, can anyone trust that what they promise will be kept, just like PM Lee saying sorry he'll do better? Better give Ah Lian a chance then, maybe she'll do better.

 
At January 22, 2013 at 6:50 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess what ?

If you watch chinese news at 6:25pm chn3, you find out that PAP, SDA, RP are highlighted to do campaigning in ground, but they will not show WP campaigning. This has been go on for few days. Apparently, those pathetic opp parties are shown to help vote dilution.

This fu@#$cking government think we are daft and cannot see it ? If this is not abuse of power and authority, then i don't know what it is.

the govt can fool the people some of the time but not all the time.

 
At January 22, 2013 at 8:16 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"... in this country don’t gamble on the unknown and untried."

But the known political party.
We already know to be useless and incompetent.

The tried political party has been shown to be using a $2 company to buy Town Council assets.

Insanity is to keep voting PAP and hoping for different results.
I'm not insane.
So must try a new political party lah!

 
At January 25, 2013 at 5:39 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is gutter politics. Getting a sound byte and twist it out of context for character assasination. Very soon, nobody will want to come forward to serve the country except for the ah lians and the ah bengs.

 
At January 27, 2013 at 8:45 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This is gutter politics. Getting a sound byte and twist it out of context for character assasination. Very soon, nobody will want to come forward to serve the country except for the ah lians and the ah bengs."

Who is NOBODY ? Isn't NOBODY responsible for billions dollar loss in investment fiasco in TH and GIC ?

And why didn't you say the same thing to PAP ? No one do it better than PAP and do it with state media and resource.

 
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